tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4956057989227103850.post5855167926104725176..comments2023-10-19T09:36:41.506-05:00Comments on A Mormon Enigma: BabylonAbelard Enigmahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13166049686152203530noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4956057989227103850.post-59047135630504735712009-06-30T18:10:57.249-05:002009-06-30T18:10:57.249-05:00Great post. When you wrote about the dark side to...Great post. When you wrote about the dark side to Babylon, I couldn't help but think of the antithisis that is also the dark side of religion. <br /><br />When you really think about it, the idea of Babylon is really just that, an idea. Someone somewhere, way in the past, made it up. Probably as an object lesson to teach something, and it has been taken way too literally ever sense.<br /><TGDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01787370282987477869noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4956057989227103850.post-71932033790526519072009-06-29T22:07:05.113-05:002009-06-29T22:07:05.113-05:00Abe, with all due respect, I kinda don't like ...Abe, with all due respect, I kinda don't like the "Babylon" thing. Its Scriptural connotations are inherently negative and corrupt and sinful. I don't accept the premise that being gay is any of that. So I'm going to disagree with your premise.<br /><br />I too have thought about what life might have been like for me if it'd been safer to come out a little earlier. IRobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02992194211469009236noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4956057989227103850.post-31251709288902075492009-06-29T21:28:46.677-05:002009-06-29T21:28:46.677-05:00Isn't Babylon the "Natural Man", and...Isn't Babylon the "Natural Man", and if so aren't we all trying to come to terms with and overcome that "Natural Man" whatever his preferences might be? <br />Isn't our real goal in life to find out what God wants for each one of us individually and try to be that person to the best of our ability? I don't know - just some thoughts I had as I pondered your Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4956057989227103850.post-35068905609896190542009-06-29T20:26:28.817-05:002009-06-29T20:26:28.817-05:00Really good post and comments.
I relate to your...Really good post and comments. <br /><br />I relate to your post a bit more than I am actually comfortable with. I alternate between feeling peace in my struggle and mourning because of the struggle. <br /><br />I totally relate with your thoughts about seeing beauty and meeting wonderful people in Babylon. Spending time in Babylon, softened my heart towards others, made me less judgmental, Bravonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02762204502534599107noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4956057989227103850.post-5595054905777308332009-06-29T19:53:48.033-05:002009-06-29T19:53:48.033-05:00Great discusssion!
For what it's worth, I wou...Great discusssion!<br /><br />For what it's worth, I would identify myself as a bisexual man, who is heterosexually married, but homo-emotionally supported by both straight and gay friendships.<br /><br />The frustration and the peace I experience flow from several sources. My family, friends, work, hobbies and religion all contribute both positives and negatives. <br /><br />Eight years ago Nedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05938186985738546670noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4956057989227103850.post-39245013157064712872009-06-29T17:41:11.684-05:002009-06-29T17:41:11.684-05:00I have wondered "what if" at times too. ...I have wondered "what if" at times too. "What if" instead of pressuring me to marry when I was a member back in the 1980s, Church leaders had instead been more understanding of same-sex attraction and had been able to support me in a life of celibacy as is increasingly the practice today? Would I still be a member of the Church?<br /><br />But then I think of Stuart Matis. John Gustav-Wrathallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03557940681381951271noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4956057989227103850.post-13885274226654993812009-06-29T14:44:09.167-05:002009-06-29T14:44:09.167-05:00Abelard,
I would like to talk about strategies.
...Abelard,<br /><br />I would like to talk about strategies.<br /><br />I think what strategy works best for you has a lot to do with your sexuality.<br /><br />I think the first strategy most gay/bi married man start off with is working on their marriage.<br /><br />However, in general, I think bisexual married men reap a greater benefit from working on their marriages than gay married men do.<br Philiphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00230261242977514599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4956057989227103850.post-42143687932432022242009-06-29T12:20:46.087-05:002009-06-29T12:20:46.087-05:00Abelard,
I don't know what you mean by Babylo...Abelard,<br /><br />I don't know what you mean by Babylon but I am assuming what you are looking for is not necessarily happiness but to be at peace.<br /><br />The only way I have found to be at peace with myself is to accept my sexuality as much as possible. <br /><br />I, however, have decided to stay married so I find myself having to balance accepting myself with safeguarding my Philiphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00230261242977514599noreply@blogger.com