Monday, June 23, 2008

Unfortunate

LDS Church officials urge California members to support marriage amendment
We ask that you do all you can to support the proposed constitutional amendment by donating of your means and time to assure that marriage is legally defined as being between a man and a woman.

7 comments:

Superstar said...

I often wish the people who get so very worked up about political issues like this could be reliably encouraged to donate their time and means to truly deserving causes that would uplift and help people less fortunate.

MoHoHawaii said...

Ugh. I hope there are many members of the church in California who will refuse to campaign for this amendment.

I have to admit that I was taken by surprise on this one. I thought things were changing.

Maybe they are, but it might take another 20 years.

Find a gay affirming church! The LDS Church isn't the only game in town... oh, wait a minute, it says it is the only church. That makes me feel sooo much better.

(Forgive me, my frustration level is a bit high today.)

drex said...

If this were purely a social issue, regarding social or civil rights, I imagine the Church would be at worst hands-off, and at best supportive. Gay marriage is a religiously-charged issue because marriage is, at least originally, a religious institution. If the issue was whether or not people of any persuasion should be entitled to the same civil rights or insurance and tax benefits, then things would roll out quite a bit differently.

If I lived in California, I would work in opposition to gay marriage, but I would work more rigorously for civil unions affording equal rights and privileges under the eyes of the law.

Peter said...

Drex, it if is a religious issue, and there are some religions that sanction gay marriage, then shouldn't gay marriage be allowed in a nation that doesn't favor one religion over another? This is not religion vs. state, this is one belief vs. another.

Sean said...

i for one have not yet figured out why the church has taken a stand on gay marriage.
As a church it has openly said that and is commited to that fact that it is God's Church. which if you ask my spiritual side, i will admit that I have a very strong testimony of that fact. However....

since that it is the "only" church that has full rights and blessing of Priesthood and that only members who have committed themselves to living in the "higher order"; This is in fact, a declarative statement saying all other marriage types are not "true". Thus ending the topic.

then by logical deduction - what other people choose to call marriage doesnt mattter. why then does the church have a stand at all.

sure you will have some zelots say, what about the children? my answer is ya, sure a Mom and Dad are great, but when kids are abandoned then why shouldnt good people be able to raise them? I have watched Cog and his husband raise two very healthy, well adjusted boys for the past year and half and not once have i seen nor heard that they be any less of a parent that one in from a hetro marriage. heck they've even taken classes, something I havent even done!

so to heck with this silly stand. If you ask me

Michael said...

I agree with you Abelard that this is unfortunate. As an active and (mostly) believing member of the church, I wholeheartedly disagree with the notion that we should impose our religious views on another person. Yes, marriage has its roots in religion and that should be respected - but the fact is that marriage is no longer a purely religious institution in America since it is sanctioned and even performed by the state.

Furthermore, as Peter pointed out, gay marriages are sanctioned by a number of religious beliefs and churches, so for the religious argument to be used is ridiculous. There's just no basis for it since marriage is NOT purely a religious institution in America and even if it were, there are religious beliefs which allow for gay marriage - so the state should allow for it under freedom of religion.

kevin said...

Interestingly enough, my editorial appeared in the Daily Universe the same day (June 24th) that the article talking about the Church's stand in California appeared on its front page. I was glad to be a voice of hope on such a day.